Subject: Re: Linksys 802.11b signal amp From: Anthony.N.Martin Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:19:02 +0000 X-Message-Number: 3 >> The only issue with this is that the RF Front Ends on the 802.11 >> equipment is quite wide. I suspect that there will be some adjacent >> channel interference meaning that the overall network capacity is not >> quite double. How much less is not certain. > Do you have any numbers that could quantify this? I've long been > interested in just how good (or bad) 802.11b RF front ends are, on > both the TX and RX sides. What does the spectrum of a typical 802.11b > card look like -- is there any filtering at all, or do you see a > typical sin(x)/x spectrum? Tx modulation envelope is given in the 802.11 spec. Sidelobes must be suppressed so filtering is required. I did some co-site measurements on some 2.4GHz devices; although not WLAN they use common WLAN components and the same RF circuit arrangements. I needed to answer some basic questions for demonstrating a repeater at 2.4GHz. I measured the Tx noise level at channels far away from the carrier. I calculated (datasheet) values for the 1dB compression point of the receiver front-end LNA/mixer. Reciprocal mixing with Rx LO noise is also a performance limiting factor, but it was figured that the Tx LO was the same thing and with modulation and PA so the Tx noise would always be worse. These results both suggested attenuation of around 45dB would be needed between a near transmitter and a receiver so as not to degrade its sensitivity to a weak signal I constructed a test setup using a screened low-level "wanted" signal transmitter and a high-level "interferer" transmitter mixed at different levels and fed to a receiver. The low-level signal level was set so that it was just above receiver threshold and the interferer level increased until the wanted signal was lost. Measured results showed 50dB and on some channels 55dB isolation was required between the interfering transmitter and the receiver to avoid degraded Rx sensitivity. This translates into a horizontal separation of dipoles of the order of 10m. 40dB isolation was easily achieved by stacking 2 dipoles vertically with a horizontal metal plate between; 50dB is achievable with accurate positioning and with no reflecting objects nearby; only practical outdoors. Otherwise you're looking at cavity filters or directional antennas if you must put them close together. As the emissions of WLAN are broader-bandwidth, using sufficient channel separation may be more of an issue. But as a general rule to derive from this, keep your AP's or antennas at least 10m apart if you want them to work on different channels at the same time. These results were at 50mW; if you're jacking up the Tx power then isolation must be increased pro-rata. Some cards may be worse if they use lower levels in the Tx modulation chain or LNA's with lower compression points. When this transceiver was designed, we were paying attention to these issues; WLAN RF designers probably rate co-site of little importance. Also bear in mind the screening effectiveness of a WLAN card at 2.4GHz is not great and two WLAN cards in the same PC are likely to block one another irrespective of what kind of antennas you use. The bus-connector end of a PCMCIA card cannot be closed effectively, and is typically left open, leaving a nice slot-length for coupling RF in and out of the card. Keep at least 0.5m physical separation between cards, unless you build additional screening boxes effective at 2.4GHz. All this only matters if cards are on *different* channels; in a typical SOHO using one frequency the desks don't have to be 10m apart! Ant M1FDE